Pari-mutuel Kentucky Derby futures - Pool 2

DiscreetCatDiscreetCat Moderator
edited February 2017 in Horse Racing Forum
2017 Kentucky Derby Future Wager Pool 2
Friday, Jan. 27-Sunday, Jan. 29

1 American Anthem 15-1
2 Battalion Runner 20-1
3 Classic Empire 5-1
4 El Areeb 50-1
5 Fact Finding 30-1
6 Faja 50-1
7 Gormley 15-1
8 Guest Suite 50-1
9 Gunnevera 50-1
10 Irish War Cry 30-1
11 Lookin At Lee 30-1
12 Mastery 6-1
13 McCraken 10-1
14 Mo Town 20-1
15 Mont Saint Legame (JPN) 50-1
16 No Dozing 50-1
17 Petrov 50-1
18 Practical Joke 20-1
19 Sonic Mule 50-1
20 State of Honor 50-1
21 Uncontested 20-1
22 Untrapped 50-1
23 Wild Shot 50-1
24 Mutuel Field (All Others) 8/5

Comments

  • dirtyshirtdirtyshirt Senior Member
    edited January 2017
    All others at 2-1 is gonna get you 10 horses in the gate minimum.
  • shh10shh10 Senior Member
    edited January 2017
    No Dozing looks intriguing at 50-1. Ran 2nd to Mo Town in the Remsen. Scheduled to run the Sam F Davis next month so we'll see how he's progressed.
  • DiscreetCatDiscreetCat Moderator
    edited January 2017
    shh10 wrote: »
    No Dozing looks intriguing at 50-1. Ran 2nd to Mo Town in the Remsen. Scheduled to run the Sam F Davis next month so we'll see how he's progressed.

    Definitely an under-the-radar type. Looks like he'll face McCracken in Sam Davis.
  • DiscreetCatDiscreetCat Moderator
    edited January 2017
    Here's the link for live odds this weekend:

    https://www.kentuckyderby.com/wager/future-wager/derby-pool-2
  • fbwinnersfbwinners Senior Member
    edited January 2017
    The two bombs I have a soft spot for in this round of the KY Derby future wager are listed below.


    Guest Suite

    Gunnevera


    Also something of note, I was told via the the Jr group, he would choose Mo Town for A. Dutrow over any TAP runners at this time. He's very high on Mo Town.
  • shh10shh10 Senior Member
    edited January 2017
    Since losing Not This Time to injury, does Romans have anyone else in the mix?
  • DiscreetCatDiscreetCat Moderator
    edited January 2017
    fbwinners wrote: »
    Also something of note, I was told via the the Jr group, he would choose Mo Town for A. Dutrow over any TAP runners at this time. He's very high on Mo Town.

    Interesting, thanks.
  • DiscreetCatDiscreetCat Moderator
    edited January 2017
    shh10 wrote: »
    Since losing Not This Time to injury, does Romans have anyone else in the mix?

    Not that I can tell.
  • dirtyshirtdirtyshirt Senior Member
    edited January 2017
    All others is 7/2. This used to be pool 1, and I'm pretty sure we considered 3/2 a good price with the point system. We'll see what happens. A lot of favorites today means everbody has a lot of ammo left.
  • DiscreetCatDiscreetCat Moderator
    edited January 2017
    Classic Empire is currently the individual favorite @ 9/2.

    I'm always amazed that people are willing to take that kind of price (or anything remotely close to it) several months before the race.
  • SmartyCideSmartyCide Member
    edited January 2017
    does any horse have less than a 20-1 shot right now?
  • DiscreetCatDiscreetCat Moderator
    edited January 2017
    SmartyCide wrote: »
    does any horse have less than a 20-1 shot right now?

    Not in my opinion. Certainly no lower than that.

    That's not to say that 20/1 (or any other number you choose) couldn't turn into a good value down the road, but at this point, we're simply too far away. Each horse has minimum 2 races left to run before Derby Day, and of course many horses regress, get injured, don't like the longer distances, etc. Not to mention 20 horses in the gate on race day (leading to heavy traffic and potential bad trips), potential for an off track, not liking the Churchill surface, getting spooked by the 100,000 screaming people, etc. It's really like walking a tightrope or dancing thru raindrops to latch onto a Derby winner this early. That's why you need a big price.
  • dirtyshirtdirtyshirt Senior Member
    edited January 2017
    5/2 on the field seems like a fucking score. I was playing golf and didn't get any more. I can name like 10 horses I really like, and I bet 10 more emerge.
  • DiscreetCatDiscreetCat Moderator
    edited January 2017
    How did So Conflated not make the list of 23?
  • shh10shh10 Senior Member
    edited February 2017
    DiscreetCat wrote: »
    Definitely an under-the-radar type. Looks like he'll face McCracken in Sam Davis.

    Good one today in the Sam Davis. I like No Dozing in this one over McCracken.

    9-3-8

    Good Luck All!
  • shh10shh10 Senior Member
    edited February 2017
    McCraken wins with new track and stakes record.

    No Dozing starting dozing at the far turn when McCraken catapulted by him.
  • DiscreetCatDiscreetCat Moderator
    edited February 2017
    fbwinners wrote: »
    Also something of note, I was told via the the Jr group, he would choose Mo Town for A. Dutrow over any TAP runners at this time. He's very high on Mo Town.

    Interested to see what this guy does today in the Risen Star.
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