Big Brown -4.5 lengths... yes/no?

RightAngleRightAngle Administrator
edited June 2008 in Horse Racing Forum
I've seen some others discussing this prop, what are everyone's thoughts?

Personally I say no....

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  • hue21998hue21998 Banned
    edited June 2008
    id have to say no, so many belmonts have been lost at the wire
  • InTheFogInTheFog Senior Member
    edited June 2008
    I Think they will try to have the track so fast that Big Brown can try and beat Secretariats track record time.One or two days after they will say the quarter crack has a problem and for the best interest of the horse it is best to put him to stud.That would probably be the right move since the horse has
    hoof problems.
  • InTheFogInTheFog Senior Member
    edited June 2008
    I forgot to say Big Brown will win Big (I think).
  • RightAngleRightAngle Administrator
    edited June 2008
    Seems to be plenty of action on the "NO" for this prop.

    It is up to -144 this morning at one major sportsbook.
  • hotbustophotbustop Member
    edited June 2008
    I think he romps by more than that.
  • victoryvictory Member
    edited June 2008
    Belmont Stakes – Grade I
    1-1/2 Miles -- Dirt – 3yo
    Saturday, June 7, 2008
    Anak Nakal (30-1) – was a good, solid 2yo, but failed to even match those
    juvenile figures in his first two starts at three. He jumped forward to a new
    top that was concealed by a wide trip in the Wood (2w4w, upper left), before
    bouncing in the Derby. This colt has five weeks rest, a pedigree that screams
    late development and distance, and has only developed 3 points from his 2yo
    top, so he could have another forward move coming. Zito horses have run
    well in the Belmont, and while this one starts out slower than several in here,
    we think he’s the most likely to run a new top.
    Big Brown (2-5) – ran very big to win the Florida Derby, and even bigger in
    Louisville, that negative 4-3/4 being the best Derby figure Thoro-Graph has
    ever given out, by quite a bit. His Preakness was good, but still a serious
    regression, and we do not believe that he would have run that much better
    even if ridden hard to the end. Big efforts take their toll, and when you’re
    also dealing with a horse with a history of soundness problems, the effects
    are magnified. Big Brown’s recent foot problems can be seen as a symptom,
    and the missed training doesn’t help his cause. Now he’ll be making his
    third start in five weeks, while dealing with the effects of two big efforts,
    three if you count the Florida Derby. There is a reason that ten horses in a
    row have lost when in this position—the Triple Crown places a tremendous
    amount of stress on a young horse in a short time frame. Big Brown is the
    best horse here, but he is likely to regress further, and that would bring him
    back to several other horses.
    Casino Drive (7-2) – will take lots of action based on his pedigree and his
    only start in this country. If he runs back to that 0 he’s a serious contender
    here—but most 3yos bounce after running that fast, and many horses that
    have run well right off the plane have bounced when wheeled back. It’s also
    of note that this colt worked a lot better for the Peter Pan than he has for the
    Belmont. This one is a contender with question marks that outweigh his
    odds.
    Da’ Tara (30-1) – didn’t run that fast as a 2yo, and took until late April to
    run faster. He was able to pair that effort up at Pimlico, but the cumulative
    effect of those two efforts is likely to cause a bounce now, when he would
    need a big jump to contend.
    Denis of Cork (12-1) – jumped up with a big one in his third start, after
    which his connections wisely gave him extra rest. He still bounced in the
    Illinois Derby, then began moving forward again in the Derby. Now he’s
    had five weeks rest since his last, and 11 weeks since the big effort. We
    expect a big effort, maybe even a new top, which puts in this at a price.
    Guadalcanal (50-1) – is slow and there’s no reason to expect dramatic
    improvement.
    Icabad Crane (20-1) – wasn’t that fast going into the Preakness, and while
    he improved that day, the rail trip he got made that effort look better than it
    was. He’s too slow to contend here, and there’s no reason to expect an
    explosion.
    Macho Again (20-1) – did a lot of developing from a relatively slow 2yo
    top to a big number in winning the Derby Trial, and was able to get second
    in a weak Preakness despite going back. We were originally inclined to
    expect this to be a classic 0-2-X, and it still might be. But when you take out
    the bad efforts over synthetic tracks the pattern looks a little different, so
    we’ll call him a borderline contender.
    Ready’s Echo (30-1) – ran well in his seasonal debut, bounced on poly, then
    ran a slight new top behind Casino Drive last time. This guy is lightly raced
    and has good rest into this, with a decent pattern. He should run well, for
    him, but he has some lengths to make up against several of these.
    Tale of Ekati (20-1) – was a precocious juvenile that didn’t develop at all as
    the year went on, but jumped way forward to win the Wood in his second
    start this year. He figured to bounce in the Derby and did, and now we’re at
    a pivotal point in this colt’s career. He has had five weeks rest and nine since
    the big effort, and he should run well now, which makes him a contender.
    Bottom Line – Obviously either Big Brown or Casino Drive could win the
    Belmont, but there are enough negatives for both that we’re willing to take
    our shot against them. There are two possible approaches—one is to bet both
    Denis of Cork and Tale of Ekati. The other is to spread out in exotics using
    those two, as well as Anak Nakal, Macho Again, and Ready’s Echo
  • marilynmarilyn Junior Member
    edited June 2008
    Big Brown Has Shown His strength, He's a great Horse! They say him starting on these inside on the rail, would be bad, Well I believe in Him! He sometimes lays back some, But coming around the stretch and the straight away when His rockets kick in , Whooo-eeeee! then watch the show. i've have bets on the Brown and i'm not afraid, He is going to make History!!!!!!! I believe in him! I pray He does not get hurt (prayer)I pray God bless's BIG BROWN to make History, retire and make lot's of beautiful Babies to (RUN) like he does. What a GREAT HORSE! They dont come along that often. AMEN
  • marilynmarilyn Junior Member
    edited June 2008
    BIG BROWN will be fine! He's strong and fit! they have that p- seal on His feet, i cant remmember how to spell it? I just worked 18 hrs. i'm tired! He's a Hero, I believe he'll be fine! you have to believe sometime!
  • marilynmarilyn Junior Member
    edited June 2008
    RightAngle wrote: »
    I've seen some others discussing this prop, what are everyone's thoughts?

    Personally I say no....

    believe in the Big Brown Those Great Horses dont come around that often.
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