Draynay a Vikings Hat Wager

hue21998hue21998 Banned
edited May 2009 in Horse Racing Forum
How about a Vikings Hat Bet Lower number wins, 1st place counts as one point 9th place counts as 9 and so on
PON and The Freak over RA and Musket Man? Odds should favor you but ill take the straight up for the Hat
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  • DraynayDraynay Banned
    edited May 2009
    YES Hue Baby you have a deal !!! All four have to make the starting gate to be valid... ok.
  • hue21998hue21998 Banned
    edited May 2009
    Thats fair enough and careful calling me Baby G-Man may start drinking with Dunco lol.
  • DraynayDraynay Banned
    edited May 2009
    Lol....
  • edited May 2009
    Hue...........when You Meet Me Your Going To Want My Autograph.........at 7.00pm I Went To A Private "little Sons Of Italy Club" My Friend Were I Buy Racing Forms Was Having A Cigar Party There....they Had All The Standard Fare Meatballs-pasta-sausage And Pepper Sandwiches Etc...after 10 Vodka/cranberries One Of The Geniues Says Lets Make An A/c Run To Borgata Casino...............at 1.50 Am The Arrival To Borgata ..lol..lol..i Had $1,100.00 In My Pocket I Buy Into The Crap Table For A Dime ,after An Hour And Half I Get Wiped Slick...i Go Over To A $5.00 Slot Machine Throw A $100.00 In First Spin I Hit Triple Bars And Immediately I Cash Out $600.00...........back To The Crap Table At 630am I Left The Crap Table With $4,985.00 I Had The Dice For Over 45 Minutes The Devil Couldnt Find Me {7} Lol..had The Casino In An Uproar Yelling Talking Crap..my Buddys Who Is A Blackjack Player Couldnt Believe It....i Got A Standing And Rousing Ovation From The Casino Crowd....got Home And To Bed At 8.30am...just Woke Up Looking At Hollywood..what A Night To Say The Least.....
  • hue21998hue21998 Banned
    edited May 2009
    hahahaha i can picture that too G-Man One thing i do think is you do draw Luck, not that your not knowledgable but you are lucky on top of it!!
  • edited May 2009
    Hue........i Get In Zones At Times On The Crap Table That Are Unreal...i Talk Alotta Crap At The Tables To..the Help Always Loves Me As I Throw Small Two Way Hard6-8 Bets Up All Night For Them...im Guessing They Picked Up About $500.00 In Tips From Me Alone...now Im In A Hungover Funk Mood .....lol...lol....calling Saratoga To Get A Crap Table In The Clubhouse..lol..lol..in Case You And Dunco Cant Pick Any Winners........lol..
  • DUNCODUNCO Banned
    edited May 2009
    GAMBLER911 wrote: »
    Hue........i Get In Zones At Times On The Crap Table That Are Unreal...i Talk Alotta Crap At The Tables To..the Help Always Loves Me As I Throw Small Two Way Hard6-8 Bets Up All Night For Them...im Guessing They Picked Up About $500.00 In Tips From Me Alone...now Im In A Hungover Funk Mood .....lol...lol....calling Saratoga To Get A Crap Table In The Clubhouse..lol..lol..in Case You And Dunco Cant Pick Any Winners........lol..

    TWO TABLES PLEASE
  • hue21998hue21998 Banned
    edited May 2009
    well ya know i wont pick any winners lol
  • hue21998hue21998 Banned
    edited May 2009
    Great Race, I dont think ya can call the freak a freak anymore though he ran nice give me an addy for ya so u can wear the elusive vikings cap!!
  • edited May 2009
    The Way You To Pick Horses You Should Be Fighting Over A Raiders Or Lions Hat..lol.lol..
  • DraynayDraynay Banned
    edited May 2009
    I guess my 4 point total is about as good as it gets !!! She kicked butt just as I knew she would and has stamped herself as the greatest 3 year old filly of all time. No 3 year old filly has accomplished what she has and I am happy to wear my new Viking hat in her honor.

    Go Rachel Go......!
  • hue21998hue21998 Banned
    edited May 2009
    A Raiders Hat LOL At least then id have the excuse for the cheap wine lol. Im suprised PON didnt run up higher he seemed to be in the position he needed but the derby must have taken too much outta him.
  • DraynayDraynay Banned
    edited May 2009
    MM is for real and Rachel is off to Belmont !!!

    Let me know when you are ready to mail my hat !
  • DiscreetCatDiscreetCat Moderator
    edited May 2009
    No 3yo filly has accomplished what she has?

    Rags to Riches won the Oaks, and then won the Belmont over the eventual Horse of the Year. I'm not saying Rachel isn't better, she probably is, but she hasn't accomplished more to this point than Rags to Riches.

    And Rachel hasn't come close to accomplishing what Zarkava did only last year. Let Rachel Alexandra crush older males in the Arc, and then we'll talk.
  • DraynayDraynay Banned
    edited May 2009
    Wow... you are making a habit out of being wrong today.

    Rags never won another race after Belmont and was not undefeated

    Zarkava didn't win a Triple Crown race or beat the boys

    She has proven herself the best amongst the fillies and the colts and is undefeated and a few wins away from a perfect 3 year old season.

    Bring on Well Armed.
  • DiscreetCatDiscreetCat Moderator
    edited May 2009
    Draynay wrote: »
    Wow... you are making a habit out of being wrong today.

    Rags never won another race after Belmont and was not undefeated

    Zarkava didn't win a Triple Crown race or beat the boys

    She has proven herself the best amongst the fillies and the colts and is undefeated and a few wins away from a perfect 3 year old season.

    Bring on Well Armed.

    First off, i'm not talking about how Rags to Riches finished the year. I'm talking about what the two fillies had accomplished at this particular point (although the Belmont actually hasn't been run yet, but you get my point).

    Rachel is not undefeated either. Undefeated as a 3yo? Sure, that's true. I believe that Rags to Riches was undefeated as a 3yo as of her Belmont win, but that's just going by memory. She might've lost once early in the year, i'd have to look it up.

    Zarkava didn't win a Triple Crown race because she was a European grass horse. Duh.

    And Zarkava DID beat males; she destroyed them in the Arc de Triomphe to close out an undefeated season. If you had been reading this site last fall, you would know that. Do a search; i think i even posted a video of the race here.

    As for Rachel's potential undefeated season, who knows what Asmussern has planned for her after the Triple Crown races? He's barely had time to think about it yet. But even if she faces her own sex in the Breeders Cup, she would likely have to beat Zenyatta and/or Life is Sweet, perhaps even Cocoa Beach (no idea where she's at right now). Any one of those mares are tougher than the horses she beat today.
  • DraynayDraynay Banned
    edited May 2009
    Lol... I confused Zarkarva with Zenyatta.

    Look ... Jackson and I are going after Well Armed in the Breeders Cup. If those other fillies are all that tell to come swim in the deep end.

    RA just took apart the field from the 13 post !!!! When was the last time ANY horse won from the 13 in the Preakness ???
  • DiscreetCatDiscreetCat Moderator
    edited May 2009
    The 13-hole wasn't much of a disadvantage for Rachel, if any. It allowed her to sit in the clear with a long run into the first turn. I did have some concern that Borel would have to use her a bit to gain her preferred position by the time they hit the turn, due to the projected faster fractions, but it wasn't a gigantic issue.
  • DiscreetCatDiscreetCat Moderator
    edited May 2009
    Here's the Preakness analysis from my website. It goes over the obstacles that Rachel had to overcome today (at least the way i saw them). She came through like a champ, but let's not pretend she won the race by 7 lengths either...


    Pimlico - Race 12

    #9 Pioneerof the Nile (5/1 ml)

    Lets come right back with our Derby pick here. I respect Rachel Alexandra very much, but at the small price she'll go off at, there are a few issues she'll have to deal with. Big Drama will gun to the lead from the rail, and Rachel may have to be used just a bit from the outside post in order to gain a good stalking position, particularly with Take the Points right to her inside. Nothing major, and i'm sure she'll get a good spot, but she figures to be using more early energy this time around due to that, and also the fractions that Big Drama figures to set thru the first 6 furlongs to a mile. Not really a good thing when stretching out to her longest career distance, especially on the class-jump when she'll have horses like POTN, Papa Clem, and Friesan Fire biding their time right behind her. The other factor is the barn change, as she's no doubt been taken out of her usual routine. What effect that might have, i'm not sure, but she really only has one way to go, and that's down. Great filly, as we all know, but at 8/5 or so i think it's worth trying to beat her. As for POTN, as i mentioned it appears he'll be sitting in a good spot, behind a pace that figures to be pretty fast for the distance. He was moving beautifully around the turn in the Derby, looking every bit the winner until about midstretch when he seemed to falter just a bit. Unbelievably (considering it was the Kentucky Derby), i had read a quote from Baffert a few days before the race saying he hadn't cranked POTN up all the way because he wanted to save something for the Preakness and Belmont (apparently he felt he had a shot at the Triple Crown). So there's a chance that POTN might be more likely to move forward here than some of the others, and of course the Preakness is a sixteenth shorter than the Derby, so that figures to be to his benefit as well, if the Derby distance was just a touch to far for him (as it appeared). Last i heard, POTN was somewhere around 7/1 in the early wagering, and with money continuing to pour in on Rachel Alexandra throughout the day, it looks a safe bet that that we should get at least 4/1 here, perhaps even a few notches higher depending on how much money the Derby winner takes. Speaking of which, the latest weather report i saw is showing a 60% chance of rain in the last two hours heading into the Preakness, so there's a legit chance the track could be sloppy here. POTN didn't see to have any trouble with the muddy surface in the Derby, so that's fine, but obviously Mine That Bird would have to be given extra consideration on a wet track, particularly with a strong pace to run at.
  • InTheFogInTheFog Senior Member
    edited May 2009
    Ta Wee (1966-1980) was an American Thoroughbred Hall of Fame race horse bred at the Tartan Stable of William L. McKnight (chairman of the board of Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing Co.). (The W. L. McKnight Handicap is raced in his honor at Calder Race Course.) Foaled on March 26, 1966, her sire was Intentionally, the American Champion Sprint Horse of 1959. Man o' War appears on both sides of Ta Wee's pedigree, but Ta Wee's dam was the great broodmare Aspidistra by Better Self by Bimelech by Black Toney. Aspidistra also goes back to the influential Ben Brush.

    A birthday gift in 1957 to McKnight by his employees, Aspidistra cost a reputed $6,500. Aspidistra was risked in claiming races. No one claimed her and at the time she retired, McKnight still owned her. Two years prior to the birth of Ta Wee, the mare had given birth to Dr. Fager. Aside from Dr. Fager and Ta Wee, Aspidistra is the tail-female ancestress of Unbridled.

    Ta Wee's training was assumed by the Hall of Famer, Scotty Schulhofer. Her introduction to racing at the age of two proved a modest success, but in her first year as a three-year-old sprinter, she won eight stakes races, five of them consecutively. In the Vosburgh Stakes she beat older males.

    Because of her triumphs in her third year, her fourth year saw her heavily weighted. Even so, she won five of her seven races. In her last two races, her second Fall Highweight Handicap and her second Interborough Handicap, she ran under 140 and 142 pounds, giving away 19 pounds to the runner up in the Fall Highweight and 29 pounds in the Interborough. For this she won her second consecutive American Champion Sprint Horse award.

    Retired to broodmare duties, Ta Wee had six foals, five of them winners, and four stakes winners. Her first foal was the sprint stakes winner, Great Above, who sired Holy Bull.

    The name Ta Wee comes from the Sioux language and means "Beautiful Girl." Ta Wee died in 19
  • DraynayDraynay Banned
    edited May 2009
    Dude... please do not dig up history and try to diminish what we saw today. It drives me nuts. You saw something today you will not see again in a hundred years. Get a grip and enjoy the moment I don't care what some hag did 50 years ago against a bunch of losers.
  • hue21998hue21998 Banned
    edited May 2009
    Draynay heres my email for an addy hue2_1998@yahoo.com
  • hue21998hue21998 Banned
    edited May 2009
    Draynay your foot is once again entering your mouth and maybe you should back up a bit and look at some of your other posting. You said greatest horse ever.... Secretariat well that was 1973 37 years ago. alot closer to 50 years than now.
  • DraynayDraynay Banned
    edited May 2009
    She is 3 or 4 wins away from an undefeated year and that would place her near the top of any 3 year old racing campaign in history. Secretariat lost more than once as a 3 year old. So far Rachel is undefeated
  • turfmanturfman Senior Member
    edited May 2009
    she ran lights out....i had a tear drop.....rags to riches never won again after beating curlin
    so i will have to see if she comes back from this race as good as she came in..all i know her
    babies by curlin are going to be rocketships.....then we might see a triple crown winner
    it's over draynay has earn the right to talk shit for at least another 3 weeks, so in all fair-ness
    to the game of horse racing.....draynay...go on and talk shit with ya bad self....i had terrain and
    the filly in the $5,000 triple crown contest, in the belmont i will only get 1 pick....so i hope 1 of
    them stays in their barn for the belmont, so that i can win the $5,000....i have 3 weeks, and just
    might find a fresh horse to try and beat both of them at the 1 1/2 mile event...lets try to pick
    some winners for sunday....the owners of both horses are headed to the bank on monday, not
    even thing about little old us.....
  • turfmanturfman Senior Member
    edited May 2009
    last line should be.....even thinking about little old us.....
  • hue21998hue21998 Banned
    edited May 2009
    One thing for sure she ran her poorest of races and still beat the males
  • DraynayDraynay Banned
    edited May 2009
    Its funny you have the CHEAP RED WINE picture up. When I go to Walmart to shop for groceries I buy their MERLOT for 2.97 for cooking. One day I ran out of my favorite Opus One and tried the Walmart brand and found it to be very nice. What a shock. I buy it by the case now.
  • turfmanturfman Senior Member
    edited May 2009
    lol.....lol....that says it all..we are all winos!!!!!!
  • hue21998hue21998 Banned
    edited May 2009
    LOL cheers to the muskatelle
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