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edited January 2016 in Horse Racing Forum
Fair Grounds - Race 9

#5 Nates Mineshaft (20/1 ml)

Wow. Utter lack of respect for this horse, who to my eyes looks very much like a contender in this race. The likely reason is that he's jumping up to face graded-stakes types after running vs. claiming competition, coupled with the fact that he's starting for a low-profile barn here. The horse has simply been dynamite in his two route starts this winter though, winning off easily (despite trouble) after setting very strong early pace for the course/distance (compare them to the fractions of the Louisiana Handicap, which several of these runners are coming out of), then running even better last time through similar fractions (note that this race came just two days before the Louisiana Handicap). That race i was able to view a replay of, and he was racing completely in hand down the backstretch and was never seriously asked until a few brief moments in the stretch when asked to open up a wide margin, then was totally geared down in the late stages. Also worth noting that he had previously won impressively @ Fair Grounds back in 2010 as well, so he's now a perfect 3-for-3 over the surface; clearly he relishes it. Does face a good bit of early speed here, so he won't have an easy time of it up front (if he even chooses to go for the lead; no real evidence that he can't stalk if need be), but he didn't have an easy lead last time either, as another horse pressed him from the outside, and he was able to shake that off without any problem. Another point to consider is that he's the big longshot here, and as i'm sure you'vbe seen before, oftentimes the other riders will concede the early lead to a big longshot because they assume it's only a matter of time before he spits the bit, or they think that they can breeze by anytime they want to. That scenario would almost certainly work in our favor here, should it develop, but it's not really a necessity, i don't think. Just see no evidence that this horse isn't going to run well and be very competitive, unless perhaps he gets cooked in a speed duel (and some of the others here are just as prone to that as our longshot is). Also note, he came out of the big recent win to post a best-of-46 bullet, so it's probably safe to assume he's still in top form these days. Will be no surprise if he wins this one; no reason he can't.

HRT record:

85 for 317 (27%)

$704.40 mutuels ($8.29 avg)
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  • Rick57Rick57 Junior Member
    edited February 2012
    What a call!!!
  • LARRYKLARRYK Junior Member
    edited February 2012
    #5 - WPS

    Thank you very much - - -
  • randyfrandyf Senior Member
    edited February 2012
    Very Nice Play And Write Up
    Thx
  • dirtyshirtdirtyshirt Senior Member
    edited February 2012
    Fair Grounds - Race 9

    #5 Nates Mineshaft (20/1 ml)

    Wow. Utter lack of respect for this horse, who to my eyes looks very much like a contender in this race. The likely reason is that he's jumping up to face graded-stakes types after running vs. claiming competition, coupled with the fact that he's starting for a low-profile barn here. The horse has simply been dynamite in his two route starts this winter though, winning off easily (despite trouble) after setting very strong early pace for the course/distance (compare them to the fractions of the Louisiana Handicap, which several of these runners are coming out of), then running even better last time through similar fractions (note that this race came just two days before the Louisiana Handicap). That race i was able to view a replay of, and he was racing completely in hand down the backstretch and was never seriously asked until a few brief moments in the stretch when asked to open up a wide margin, then was totally geared down in the late stages. Also worth noting that he had previously won impressively @ Fair Grounds back in 2010 as well, so he's now a perfect 3-for-3 over the surface; clearly he relishes it. Does face a good bit of early speed here, so he won't have an easy time of it up front (if he even chooses to go for the lead; no real evidence that he can't stalk if need be), but he didn't have an easy lead last time either, as another horse pressed him from the outside, and he was able to shake that off without any problem. Another point to consider is that he's the big longshot here, and as i'm sure you'vbe seen before, oftentimes the other riders will concede the early lead to a big longshot because they assume it's only a matter of time before he spits the bit, or they think that they can breeze by anytime they want to. That scenario would almost certainly work in our favor here, should it develop, but it's not really a necessity, i don't think. Just see no evidence that this horse isn't going to run well and be very competitive, unless perhaps he gets cooked in a speed duel (and some of the others here are just as prone to that as our longshot is). Also note, he came out of the big recent win to post a best-of-46 bullet, so it's probably safe to assume he's still in top form these days. Will be no surprise if he wins this one; no reason he can't.

    HRT record:

    85 for 317 (27%)

    $704.40 mutuels ($8.29 avg)

    Thank you. Over at the top of the stretch.
  • rayphilrayphil Senior Member
    edited February 2012
    $29.60...nice...sounds like it got to you a little leading up to that monster write up..
  • Horsin~AroHorsin~Aro Senior Member
    edited February 2012
    Nice play on this one DC
  • JermanJerman Senior Member
    edited February 2012
    DC: Very much appreciate the tip. Hope you made a killing
  • HoudiniHoudini Senior Member
    edited February 2012
    Fair Grounds - Race 9

    #5 Nates Mineshaft (20/1 ml)

    Wow. Utter lack of respect for this horse, who to my eyes looks very much like a contender in this race. The likely reason is that he's jumping up to face graded-stakes types after running vs. claiming competition, coupled with the fact that he's starting for a low-profile barn here. The horse has simply been dynamite in his two route starts this winter though, winning off easily (despite trouble) after setting very strong early pace for the course/distance (compare them to the fractions of the Louisiana Handicap, which several of these runners are coming out of), then running even better last time through similar fractions (note that this race came just two days before the Louisiana Handicap). That race i was able to view a replay of, and he was racing completely in hand down the backstretch and was never seriously asked until a few brief moments in the stretch when asked to open up a wide margin, then was totally geared down in the late stages. Also worth noting that he had previously won impressively @ Fair Grounds back in 2010 as well, so he's now a perfect 3-for-3 over the surface; clearly he relishes it. Does face a good bit of early speed here, so he won't have an easy time of it up front (if he even chooses to go for the lead; no real evidence that he can't stalk if need be), but he didn't have an easy lead last time either, as another horse pressed him from the outside, and he was able to shake that off without any problem. Another point to consider is that he's the big longshot here, and as i'm sure you'vbe seen before, oftentimes the other riders will concede the early lead to a big longshot because they assume it's only a matter of time before he spits the bit, or they think that they can breeze by anytime they want to. That scenario would almost certainly work in our favor here, should it develop, but it's not really a necessity, i don't think. Just see no evidence that this horse isn't going to run well and be very competitive, unless perhaps he gets cooked in a speed duel (and some of the others here are just as prone to that as our longshot is). Also note, he came out of the big recent win to post a best-of-46 bullet, so it's probably safe to assume he's still in top form these days. Will be no surprise if he wins this one; no reason he can't.

    HRT record:

    85 for 317 (27%)

    $704.40 mutuels ($8.29 avg)

    This should be on a Handicapping 101 book classic analysis,DC standing ovation.
  • dirtyshirtdirtyshirt Senior Member
    edited February 2012
    dirtyshirt wrote: »
    Thank you. Over at the top of the stretch.

    Actually, after watching the replay, it was over after the first quarter mile.
  • DiscreetCatDiscreetCat Moderator
    edited February 2012
    Nates MIneshaft goes wire-to-wire @ $29.60 :toast:
  • SirBearSirBear Senior Member
    edited February 2012
    Nice call. I was on the same horse too for similar reasons. Didn't hurt that Theskyhasnolimit broke down (poor guy), but we'll take the 13-1.
  • fbwinnersfbwinners Senior Member
    edited February 2012
    Good Call DC, wish I would of saw your thread as I was on Alamo D'Oro no shot to win as he was loaded until Theskyhasnolimit breaks down in front of him and checks like you wouldn't believe.
  • DiscreetCatDiscreetCat Moderator
    edited April 2012
    Don't overlook this guy today.......twice would be nice
  • HoudiniHoudini Senior Member
    edited April 2012
    Don't overlook this guy today.......twice would be nice

    Bang right back at 9/1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • FLYBYNIGHTFLYBYNIGHT Senior Member
    edited April 2012
    Thanks cat for the nice winner and caught teh exacta as well
  • LARRYKLARRYK Junior Member
    edited April 2012
    Don't overlook this guy today.......twice would be nice
    Twice is very nice - thanks for the notice
  • DiscreetCatDiscreetCat Moderator
    edited April 2012
    Twice was nice.....Nate was great!

    8th race - Fair Grounds - April 01, 2012
    Video Race Replay

    Pgm Horse Win Place Show
    3 Nates Mineshaft 20.80 7.20 4.00
    2 Mission Impazible 2.80 2.40
    4 Toby's Corner 3.40



    $2 Daily Double 6-3 407.20
    $2 Exacta 3-2 65.00
    $2 Superfecta 3-2-4-6 1,875.80
    $2 Trifecta 3-2-4 223.20
    $2 Pick 3 7-6-3 (3 correct) 1,236.60
  • SirBearSirBear Senior Member
    edited April 2012
    1:47 and 3, the Beyer might be in the 115 range. Heck of a performance.
  • dirtyshirtdirtyshirt Senior Member
    edited April 2012
    I got shut out by a 10 cent super player. My fault. I did catch the Chad Brown on the turf at a price. Had the exacta huge with Rosario, but Willy was a piece of shit (or he hated the dusty turf).

    All the sudden Nate is the best older horse in the country. I'm pretty sure he demolished the track record.
  • KP-HR2k9KP-HR2k9 Senior Member
    edited April 2012
    SirBear wrote: »
    1:47 and 3, the Beyer might be in the 115 range. Heck of a performance.

    GP Florida Derby (G1): Take Charge Indy 95 (A.P. Indy) P. Byrne/C. Borel
    GP Gulfstream Oaks S (G2): Grace Hall 89 (Empire Maker) A. Dutrow/J. Castellano
    GP Orchid S (G3): Hit It Rich 91 (Smart Strike) C. McGaughey/J. Castellano
    GP Rampart S (G3): Awesome Maria 100 (Maria's Mon) T. Pletcher/J. Velazquez
    GP Appleton S (G3): Corporate Jungle 99 (Giant's Causeway) C. Brown/J. Castellano
    GP Skip Away S (G3): Fort Larned 108 (E Dubai) I. Wilkes /J. Leparoux
    GP Sir Shackleton S: Travelin Man 100 (Trippi) T. Pletcher /J. Velazquez

    FG New Orleans Handicap (G2): Nate's Mineshaft 113 (Mineshaft) A. Smith/J. Campbell
    FG Louisiana Derby (G2): Hero of Order 90 (Sharp Humor) G. Dorochenko/E. Martin
    FG Muniz Jr. Memorial H (G2): Casino Host 98 (Dynaformer) C. Brown/J. Velazquez
    FG Fair Grounds Oaks (G2): Believe You Can 96 (Proud Citizen) J. Jones/R. Napravnik
    FG Bayou H: Artemus Kitten 93 (Kitten's Joy) M. Maker/R. Napravnik
    FG Duncan F. Kenner S: Gantry 99 (Pulpit) R. Faucheux/R. Eramia
    FG Costa Rising S: Star Guitar 85 (Quiet American) A. Stall/C. Lanerie
    FG Crescent City Derby: Look At the Time 78 (Brahms) W. Hawley/C. Lanarie
    FG Bayou St. Johns S: Kissimmee Kyle 91 (Gold Tribute) A. Stall/R. Albarado
    FG Crescent City Oaks: She's Prado's Idol 73 (Screen Idol) G. Goins/T. Hebert
    FG Red Camelia S: Beverly Belle 85 (Far Out Wadleigh) W. Calhoun/M. Mena

    SA Santa Anita Oaks (G1): Willa B Awesome 88 (Awesome Gambler) W. Solis/M. Pedroza
    SA Echo Eddie S: Derby Gold 93 (Bertrando) B. Baffert/M. Garcia
    SA Evening Jewel S: Warren's Amber 77 (Broadway Moon) J. Gutierrez/E. Flores
    SA Sidd Finch S: Calimonco - (Storm Cat) J. Sadler/A. Quinonez

    AQU Plugged Nickle S: Catch a Thief 87 (Flatter) T. Hills/E. Castro
  • FlyinLateFlyinLate Senior Member
    edited April 2012
    This horse might be the real deal. Last time we see 10-1.
    He couldn't have won that any easier. Thanks DC for a horse who wins back-to-back @ $20+
  • fbwinnersfbwinners Senior Member
    edited April 2012
    Nates Mineshaft (Mineshaft), who established a new track record at Fair Grounds when posting a 7 1/4-length victory in the Grade 2 New Orleans on April 1, tuned up for the Alysheba with a spectacular move over the fast Trackside training track, recording a half-mile in :45 2/5. From 15 works at the distance, it was nearly three seconds quicker than the second-fastest.

    Winner of the Grade 3 Mineshaft Handicap two back, the former claimer has posted convincing tallies in his last four starts, including three attempts this year, and the Austin Smith-trained speedster probably will be the one to catch in the 1 1/16-mile Alysheba
  • DiscreetCatDiscreetCat Moderator
    edited May 2012
    Saw he won big, unfortunately i wasn't on board. After the flop @ Churchill, i thought perhaps he was a Fair Grounds horse-for-course, and simply didn't perform as well elsewhere. Probably should've given him another shot, but whatever. Glad to see him win.
  • DiscreetCatDiscreetCat Moderator
    edited June 2012
    Nates Mineshaft has been entered in the Grade 1 Stephen Foster on Saturday.
  • FlyinLateFlyinLate Senior Member
    edited June 2012
    Nates Mineshaft has been entered in the Grade 1 Stephen Foster on Saturday.

    What do you think of his chances on Saturday? He clearly has proven he wasn't a horse for course @ Fairgrounds, but is yet to prove he can settle in and make a run.
  • dirtyshirtdirtyshirt Senior Member
    edited May 2014
    #HRTClassics
  • fbwinnersfbwinners Senior Member
    edited September 2014
    REMINGTON PARK LAST SATURDAY NIGHT


    Race 3Post: 8:56 PM ETDirt - Fast
    6 1/2 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up | ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING: $50,000 | PURSE: $35,000
    # HORSE JOCKEY TRAINER WIN PLACE SHOW
    5 Nates Mineshaft J. Loveberry
    120Lbs
    J. Caldwell $10.40 $5.20 $4.20
    2 Basmati L. Quinonez
    120Lbs
    S. Asmussen $6.00 $4.60
    3 Bobcat Jim S. Laviolette
    120Lbs
    K. Smith $2.80
  • dirtyshirtdirtyshirt Senior Member
    edited September 2014
    #hrtinstantclassics
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