Palace Malice draws post 5 with 8-1 morning line
FlyinLate
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Not a chance the 8-1 sticks, but not a bad draw.
FlyinLate
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6-1 seems reasonable, it's a tough fucking race.
Realized that a few years back when they all debuted at Saratoga most of them first time starters running routes. I don't think any of them even made the board. Month later they all win at keeneland!
It's a very tough field, too.
Here's another thought. If Palace Malice has a regular jock, that jock knows he need 2nd (possibly 3rd) to have a Derby mount, and he'll ride that way. Gomez apparently has Vyjack locked up, so no matter what he's told, he's gonna try to win this thing. That's how he is. If I was the connections, and had a son of Curlin (who's by Smart Strike, I believe), who had sire potential like his, I would offer Go Go 50k to run for second (assuming that was legal *cough*).
Upping. John, any word on what the connections have said/arranged with Go-Go?
Don't expect Palace Malice to be "Stymied from 5/16 to 1/16 !
As Dirty so noted, a running line comment from DRF not heretofore seen!
I was glad to hear this; let's hope GG sticks to the plan.
Regarding his early speed, i agree in theory, but i'm kind of wondering what the hell happened to it. The first time i thought Rosie must've had a brain spasm (and really i still do), but when he dropped back again with Edgar (especially after what happened in the Risen Star), it kind of makes me wonder.
True that he rushed up just fine after that, but in my opinion that was probably a bit unnecessary, and if he had been closer earlier then he probbaly could've moved up outside instead of getting boxed along the rail. I just wonder what's going on with the horse these days. I do expect he'll put in a solid run today at a pretty sweet price, but where exactly he'll be coming from, i'm not quite sure. If he drops back again, then i think we're looking at a new normal.
Go Go will not do anything you tell him. Thank god he was behind Rydilluc into the lane. Didn't look like he beat on the horse either, so that's a positive.
Another important note here is that his running style is one that wins the Derby more often than not. Either way, lets hope he comes home sound, eats up and has Roses on his Mind.
Let's also not forget he's BIG TIME Team 24, and several of us have individual futures over 40-1.
At least he ran well, and he actually had a pretty good trip this time. And congrats on meeting him into the Derby!
I've gotta be honest though. No one would be happier to see Palace Malice win the Derby (well, maybe John or Cot Campbell), but i'm not crazy about his chances in there. It looked to me like he was totally out of gas nearing the wire (he failed to switch leads, too), and that's why he got beat today. Hard to like his chances with the extra furlong tacked on, although it's possible it might be a different story on dirt (who knows). I hope i'm wrong, but that's what i saw.
In any event, so glad that our resident horse owner (and friend) has made it into the Derby. Very exciting. Congrats again!!!!
He put in a great effort like everyone thought he would do and was such a great race, love it when your horse is making a move in the stretch, no better feeling in gambling and then to get caught on the wire- balls. I hope everyone had a couple of bucks on him and was able to join in on the excitement.
It would be fun to see him run again in 3 weeks- and curious to see dogwoods reaction and commentary moving forward.
I'm on the PM train to Louisville!
Just like to say that Jerry Bailey commented "As a Jockey, going into The Derby, that (Palice Malice) would be the horse I would get on".
If he would have changed leads, there would have been no catching him...
100% agreed. But I didn't want to want to knock the guy, after he got you in the Derby.
IMO opinion it also solidifies the fact that he would have BLOWN the race open @ Fairgrounds if he got through, and might well have been less than 10-1 Derby Day.
As far as Palace Malice's running style, I'll bet he's in the back half of the Derby field.
Is Gomez committed to Vyjack? Or is he having second thoughts?
As far as Team 24, 8/5 ain't exactly right, but I guess it's gonna be like getting a 4 horse Entry with Orb and PM).
As for team 24, I count 12 of the 23 listed (in pool 1) are going to the Derby. That as I recall is a great deal more than last year's Future Pool 1.
Lol, feels a lot more like 16 to me. Either way, an abberation, and certainly a bad year to experiment, regardless of outcome. Injuries, and a lack of real late bloomers might be our demise, however I do have high hopes for 3 of my horses.
Java's War is listed buddy.
It's literally nothing, but again, the bet wasn't bad, injuries and horse maturity played key roles.