Kentucky Derby Future Wager (Pool One) begins tomorrow
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Kentucky Derby Future Wager: Field a heavy favorite, Algorithms at 8-1 on morning line | Daily Racing Form
Here's the field:
1. Algorithms 8-1
2. Alpha 20-1
3. Battle Hardened 30-1
4. Creative Cause 20-1
5. Discreet Dancer 15-1
6. Dullahan 20-1
7. El Padrino 20-1
8. Empire Way 50-1
9. Ever So Lucky 20-1
10. Fed Biz 20-1
11. Gemologist 20-1
12. Hansen 12-1
13. I’ll Have Another 20-1
14. Junebugred 50-1
15. Liaison 20-1
16. Longview Drive 50-1
17. Midnight Transfer 50-1
18. Mr. Bowling 50-1
19. Out of Bounds 20-1
20. Rousing Sermon 30-1
21. Sabercat 30-1
22. Take Charge Indy 30-1
23. Union Rags 10-1
24. Mutuel field (all others) 9-5
Here's the field:
1. Algorithms 8-1
2. Alpha 20-1
3. Battle Hardened 30-1
4. Creative Cause 20-1
5. Discreet Dancer 15-1
6. Dullahan 20-1
7. El Padrino 20-1
8. Empire Way 50-1
9. Ever So Lucky 20-1
10. Fed Biz 20-1
11. Gemologist 20-1
12. Hansen 12-1
13. I’ll Have Another 20-1
14. Junebugred 50-1
15. Liaison 20-1
16. Longview Drive 50-1
17. Midnight Transfer 50-1
18. Mr. Bowling 50-1
19. Out of Bounds 20-1
20. Rousing Sermon 30-1
21. Sabercat 30-1
22. Take Charge Indy 30-1
23. Union Rags 10-1
24. Mutuel field (all others) 9-5
Comments
Well, he DID win a one-turn race in January over five opponents on a sloppy track... :rolleyes:
I wanted a little piece of this one. If he runs huge today, his price drops a ton??? Maybe not, I'm sure he's expected to romp.
I've been meaning to ask everyone, what are your thoughts on I'll Have Another? Fluke or was that a serious performance? He did destroy a handful of Cali's top contenders.
Like:
Baffert 7/5
Pletcher 8/5
All Others 1/5
But, give me 25 choices.
Yeah. He's a Derby horse. Can't bet him now IMO. We'll see.
He looked awful good. Let's watch him open up @ something like 13-1 tomorrow now
Good luck to everyone who plays the futures. I'll post any plays I do decide to jump aboard come Sunday. Let's get em posted and see if anyone is lucky come May.
Yeah. I should have bet him in Vegas last weekend. I was a mess. But yeah, I think he made a mockery of a few nice ones today - going two turns quickly, on dirt, with ease. And, he never looked timid, ever. Scary to think that he could be pretty darn good on grass too (later in life I'm sure).
1. Rousing Sermon.....30/1
2. I'll Have Another.....20/1
3. Liaison.....20/1
4. Algorithms.....8/1
Good Luck And Good Racing!!!!!
I AGREE....THE FIELD HAS WON THE LAST 3 OF 4 YEARS.....9/5 ...OR A TICK LESS IS FINE...
LOCAL VEGAS CAN STILL BET AT WYNN'S,LUCKY'S,AND HILTON......OR BETFAIR OFF/SHORE...AFTER SUNDAY
KY Derby Futures 1 $50.00 WN 10,24 $100.00 $0.00
Took a Pletcher, a Baffert, and the field small for fun. We'll check prices @ the end of the weekend before we make some real bets - I just always seem to forget it closes early.
1 Algorithms Todd Pletcher 8 17
2 Alpha Kiaran McLaughlin 20 21
3 Battle Hardened Eddie Kenneally 30 76
4 Creative Cause Mike Harrington 20 27
5 Discreet Dancer Todd Pletcher 15 41
6 Dullahan Dale Romans 20 52
7 El Padrino Todd Pletcher 20 33
8 Empire Way Mike Harrington 50 42
9 Ever So Lucky Jonathan Sheppard 20 79
10 Fed Biz Bob Baffert 20 31
11 Gemologist Todd Pletcher 20 42
12 Hansen Michael Maker 12 24
13 I'll Have Another Doug O'Neill 20 41
14 Junebugred Steve Hobby 50 62
15 Liaison Bob Baffert 20 69
16 Longview Drive Jerry Hollendorfer 50 99
17 Midnight Transfer Carla Gaines 50 74
18 Mr. Bowling J. Jones 50 99
19 Out of Bounds Eoin Harty 20 44
20 Rousing Sermon Jerry Hollendorfer 30 77
21 Sabercat Steven Asmussen 30 37
22 Take Charge Indy Patrick Byrne 30 83
23 Union Rags Michael Matz 10 8
24 All Other Three Ye Unknown Trainer 9/5 3/5
I will take a stab on these tomorrow close to final post at the FG.
El Padrino - 30-1 or more
Midnight Transfer - 60 -1 or more
Creative Cause - 30- 1 or more
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I ended up with El Padrino @ 16-1 (He'll be higher on Derby Day, shitty bet), Fed Biz @ 21/1 (It's whatever, this one looks the part for sure, no distance concerns either), and the field @ 3/2 to pay for my other two retarded bets. I just like to have something to follow.
BTW The Baffert 3YO filly looked awful good today. She's in the field.
Ever So Lucky might have been worth a small play @ 55-1.
Anybody else get down here?
My donation went to Midnight Transfer
Fed Biz
Discreet Dancer
I'll Have Another
That one is actually on my radar a little bit. Looking for owner/trainer quotes as they become available. Of course, Baffert already has Fed Biz and Bodemeister to work with, so it's probably nothing more than a back-burner thing at this point. Something to follow though, for sure.
Is the Lemon Drop Kid colt, Stirred Up worth mention? Was Bodemeister too good? Joel too patient (Trevor even pointed it out)? Baffert playing games? I'm not sure, he looked average to me, but was never asked, and likely will run the Derby distance. Worth a shot in Vegas or over it guys?
Sure as hell hard to get anything to run back after a big effort so far this year. I get the feeling in about 4 weeks I'm going to be looking for the next Funnycide?
Ray, here are my thoughts on Javier jumping off Union Rags. You know how quirkey Michael Matz is! UR does not need the $$$ to get in to the Derby. He's in!!!
It doesn't make a rat's ass how he runs in the FOY, Matz will train up to the Derby. He did it before with success, and he'll do it again. That means that Leparoux will be sitting on the sidelines for several weeks with no meaningful mounts because all serious players will have already gotten committments from jocks. Nobody will pick up Leparoux if he is on UR.
Conversely, Castellano is in the cat bird's seat with a shitload of TAP mounts at his disposal. It's like Michael told Tom Hagen, "It's the smart move, and Javier was always the smart one"
Apologies to Coppola, couldn't resist.
Union Rags may well turn out to be a great horse, but it won't be with a hot jockey who refuses to put all his eggs in one basket.